Jordan Belfort, The Wolf of Wall Street

Jordan Belfort: ‘You become desensitised to your own insanity’

Belfort’s notorious memoir, ‘The Wolf of Wall Street’, is being turned into an immersive theatre experience. To launch the new show, the man himself answers a few questions

Andrzej Lukowski
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Former Wall Street stockbroker Jordan Belfort lived a life of crazed, drug-addled excess in the ’90s, made millions of dollars, served 22 months in jail for fraud then re-emerged as a motivational speaker. His hyper-lurid 2007 memoir, ‘The Wolf of Wall Street’, was a big hit; Martin Scorsese’s 2013 movie of the book was an even bigger hit. Now it’s being adapted into an immersive theatre show in which each audience member will play a new recruit to Belfort’s company who must make tough decisions as the ‘greed is good’ dream starts to sour.

The reason there’s a market for a show like this is that people secretly want a bit of your ’90s lifestyle, surely? 
‘It’s suspension of disbelief. I think people go because they want to experience something without having to live it; to get the high without having to do the drug – and not be screwed up afterwards. You don’t go to watch the Avengers because you actually want Thanos blasting at you’

A key message of the book and the show is that you went a bit too far… 
‘A bit? I went really too far. If you buy into your own bullshit, you go off on a very dangerous path. And I did that.’

So is the book kind of a morality story? 
‘Totally. It is. But let’s not deny the fact that it was glamorous. It was fun to an extent. I think the problem when you put something in a box and say “it’s bad” or “it’s good” is that you take away the message of what it really is. Clearly there were some things that were just awful and terrible that I should never have done – and that won’t be repeated – but that doesn’t mean I can’t learn from it.’

You still owe people money, right? 
‘Yeah. Well, not to people. People aren’t being paid back because there are no more people. I pay money to a fund. But it’s almost over.’ 

You started writing your memoir in prison. Did you realise you had a good story? 
‘No! I remember thinking it was all perfectly normal, what was going on, because you become desensitised to your own insanity. Admittedly when I started writing the book I was like: Oh my GOD. I couldn’t believe it as it was unfolding on paper.’

Did you know you could write? 
‘I couldn’t write! I taught myself by reading Tom Wolfe and Hunter S Thompson; I used those books as textbooks, I modelled them to make strategy for writing and then I was able to write.’

The New York Times just reported that Donald Trump lost $1 billion in the mid-‘80s to mid-’90s. Does that surprise you? 
’That’s old news. What’s the secret to that? I knew him back then. I flew with Donald Trump in his helicopter. What really sank him was this Taj Mahal casino. He picked up me and two friends, back when I was a big gambler, and we flew over Atlantic City in, I think, 1990 and he was like: “Oh look, this is the Taj Mahal. It isn’t done yet!" A lot of what happened with Donald Trump was a symptom of the time back then with massive debt being taken on by everyone. Listen, if he lost that much money and somehow still got rich, then he did something right.’

Have you ever thought of entering politics? 
‘Never. Absolutely not. And it’s a shame. You know why? Because I’d probably be pretty good at it! But it’s so evil, politics – they rip you to shreds!’

‘The Wolf of Wall Street’ will be at a central London location (TBA) Sep 5-Jan 19 2020. £59.95.

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‘Guys and Dolls’ might have lost some big names, but it’s quickly making new ones. 

by Leonie Cooper

Below is the original ‘Guys and Dolls’ review from March 2023.

‘Guys and Dolls’ is a musical with such a towering reputation – by all accounts Richard Eyre’s ecstatically received 1982 revival all but saved the National Theatre – that I slightly struggled to see what all the fuss was about the last time it came to town, in a played-for-laughs 2015 revival. Yes, it was entertaining. I’m just not sure if it felt remarkable in the way the history books describe.

Well, now I get it. Nicolas Hytner’s Bridge production is a staggering achievement, a more or less flawless take on traditional terms that’s turned into something transcendent by the staging, from Hytner and designer Bunny Christie. If the duo’s excellent ‘immersive’ Shakespeare productions of ‘Julius Caesar’ and ‘A Midsummer Night’s Dream’ were the dry runs, then ‘Guy and Dolls’ is their method perfected. 

After decades of treating the great musicals of the twentieth century as museum pieces, there’s a growing recognition in Western theatre that these classics will fall behind if not subject to some reinvention. Generally that means darker, more leftfield takes: witness the current West End productions of ‘Cabaret’ and ‘Oklahoma!’.

Unless you’re going to struggle to stand for two-and-a-half hours, Hytner and Christie’s version of Frank Loesser’s 1950 classic is not a difficult or challenging one. Instead, it uses a stunningly choreographed and – crucially – incredibly fun series of rising and falling platforms to stage the show right in the middle of a standing audience that’s deftly manoeuvred around by ushers dressed as NYC cops. It brings you incredibly close to the action: if you’re inclined to stand at the front you’ll usually be within a few inches of some performer or other. It’s a lot more exciting than sitting, the difference between standing or sitting at a gig. And it should be stressed that it’s only the stalls that have been taken out: there’s plenty of seating, and there you’re still getting an incredibly intimate experience that avoids the odd dodgy sight line that’s inevitable if you’re on the floor.

To be clear, it’s the same general idea as the two Shakespeare plays, but much bolder, busier and more dynamic, with an inevitable frisson gained from the proximity to world-class singing and dancing. 

With the staging duly drooled over, let’s talk about ‘Guys and Dolls’ itself. Loessner’s musical – with book by Jo Swerling and Abe Burrows – is an immaculately structured comedy bursting with deathless one-liners and wonderful characters that follows an assortment of lovelorn New York City lowlifes at the seedy height of Prohibition.

The biggest name here is probably Daniel Mays, who seamlessly translates his natural geezer-isms into the New York equivalent, thoroughly loveable as shambolic Nathan Detroit, a small-time crook desperately trying to stage an illegal game of craps for the local wiseguys. There’s a small fortune to be made: but he needs $1,000 to pay off the venue, and he is not the sort of guy who has $1,000. His biggest problem, though, is what to do about his longsuffering fiance Miss Adelaide (Marisha Wallace), who has been hitched to him for 14 long years.

US performer Wallace is absolutely sensational: she’s got the lung power and nuance to totally own standards like ‘A Bushel and a Peck’ and ‘Sue Me’. But more to the point, she’s got the acting chops to really do something with the character. Adelaide is traditionally played as an OTT light relief ditz, but here Wallace channels tremendous empathy into her: here, she’s a woman who would seem to put up with Nathan not because she’s an idiot, but because she actually loves him. Even her wild lies to her mother – who thinks they’re married with five kids – feel like a desperate attempt to give bumbling Nathan space to sort himself out. Wallace gives the role a palpable dignity and presence: still fun, but much more soulful than usual.

If Nathan and Adelaide are the beating heart of Hytner’s production, then the romance between Andrew Richardson’s suave career gambler Sky Masterton and Celinde Schoenmaker’s missionary Sergeant Sarah Brown feels appreciably shakier. That’s probably the point. Sky does, after all, only ask her out on a date (to Havana!) as a bet with Nathan.

She’s funny, strong, but ultimately fragile, unsure of who she is as Sky makes her seriously question her devotion to saving New York’s sinners.

He’s interesting: yes, he has some great one-liners, but the lisp-voiced Richardson – in a great stage debut – plays him with a slightly mournful vulnerability. When the pair go to a bar in Havana and Sky dances with another woman… well here it’s a gay bar, and it’s not a woman Sky dances with. A bit of fun, for sure, but the inference is surely that Sky is struggling with his identity as much as Sarah is with hers; come the end their romance feels sincere, but fragile. Which is good: romcoms shouldn’t have to end in total resolution.

Choreography legend Arlene Phillips turns 80 this year, and is better known these days as a slightly cheesy telly figure. But her tight, pneumatic routines (co-choreographed with James Cousins) feel fresh as a daisy – the performing spaces are tiny, so there’s not a lot of fancy stuff (the entertaining brawl in the gay bar is an obvious exception), but such sequences as there are, crackle with energy.

The staging is so innately exuberant that the production can get away with reining the show’s hammier tendencies. As well as Wallace’s more empathetic Miss Adelaide, Cedric Neal’s affable take on gangster Nicely-Nicely Johnson is much less light relief than tends to be the way. His big gospel-style showstopper ‘Sit Down, You’re Rockin’ the Boat’ is still bags of fun. But in casting a Black actor – and a relatively restrained one at that – it sidesteps the usual ‘joke’ that a schlubby white guy has incongruously pulled a big churchy number out of the bag. As it turns out, it’s still fun.

It’s strongly cast all over, but a special shout out to the ushers: they’re doing a pretty weird job (I’m not sure if ‘ushers’ is even the right term) but they herd us around with good-natured precision: if they were less well drilled and tolerant of our occasional slowness on the uptake of where to go, it just wouldn’t work.

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